Selena Gomez gave a very wide-ranging interview to The Hollywood Reporter for its Awards Chatter podcast this week, and at one point, the Only Murders in the Building

actress reflected candidly on how her public health struggles with lupus and breakups from Justin Bieber (in spring 2018, although they were on-off dating for 10 years with drama)

Gomez addressed that five-year period between her albums Revival (2015) and Rare (2020), saying, “It was necessary for me to walk through those things. I had a lot of soul-searching to do

By all means I don’t have life figured out, but I do know that during that time I was learning so much about myself. I was, you know, obviously going through a really tough breakup

and then I was left with the question of my career and where am I gonna go and what’s gonna happen? It just was all of these different things I was feeling.

And then my medical stuff kind of kicked in—I was dealing with my lupus and I was dealing with some kidney problems. It was actually really hard. But, being on the other side of it,

I have to be honest, it’s actually been really good for me. It allowed me to develop a character where I don’t tolerate any sort of nonsense or disrespect in any way,

The success of “Lose You to Love Me,” a track Gomez has heavily implied is about Bieber, was “wild” to her “because we wrote the song in less than an hour…

I knew that it was gonna leave some sort of impression because it was me kind of saying my goodbye, and I was really happy about it, but I was also nervous.”

Gomez added that working with Steve Martin and Martin Short on Only Murders in the Building has led her to raise her expectations for men. “Being around two adult gentlemen